He makes a grizzly look like a cub. Between airlines, public transportation, hotels, ferryboats, etc. 400g hornady JHP on a 300lb hog shot from front, while laying prone, went through the shoulder, traveled full length of body and exited hind-quarter over 2.5 feet of thick, dense, penetration. Join half a million readers enjoying Newsweek's free newsletters. Mountain Lions are extremely fast, territorial, and capable of seriously injuring and killing even an adult human. (https://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/species/mammals/grizzly/bear%20spray.pdf) This is largely down to a lack of resources in their own habitats. They called me to come over and look at the tracks. This is perfect mountain lion habitat. you rig will protect you. There is a term for that. Bullets dont tend to divert in the wind at the necessary defensive distances. Rain, Wind, Snow all those things can and will reduce the effectiveness of Bear Spray much more than they would affect the employment of a firearm. At night you may wish a good shotgun and buck shot. All of these four-legged animals that have attacked humans are in my state: My Glock 10 mm w/ 15 + 1,in A friend who guided in Alaska and the northwest, that experienced a number of charges over the years, told me that at 300 yds, a well placed 06 round would do the job, at 200 yds a 300 Win. Although, for me, the closest I want to get to a rattler is a 44 mag snake load, preferably my Judge in .410 7 shot. With the right bullet most large caliber handguns will end the confrontation in your favor if done this way. I have both the Governor and a Public Defender Judge, but no steel framed .45 Long Colt guns. After a comment like that, Im certain that youre an expert in the art of defensive purse swinging. Mountain lion facts. coastal on the Alaska peninsula quartering away with a .338 Win mag. not litter the landscape. Not handloading right now, so that obvious solution is not available; only factory ammo. Which one are you going to use first? I can hit an outboard engine at 100 yards. SCCY DVG-1 Review. Capable yet not-overpowered, accurate and easy-to-control except in aluminum framed 2" snubnose versions, it remains a solid choice for discrete carry and pleasure shooting days at the local target range. Even then, I havent seen a failure in nearly 10 loadings, at which time I usually get rid of them. What would be the minimum barrel length for any bear spanker? A mountain lion's skull is thicker than that of a human, and they can survive shots from firearms that are much more powerful. Remember you can be turned into bear shit with in two days if you are wrong! Merrill, Oregon (Klamath County). You can love a single action revolver but you wont find an Alaskan guide or hunter carrying one, or a semi-auto pistol without a 45-70 or 338WinMag at the ready. And maybe just maybe you walk away on the top side of the ground. Commander. Sure, semi-automatics have their place. Trained dogs can be used to capture or kill depredating lions. AFLoader, the Automated Universal Pistol Magazine Loader, https://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/species/mammals/grizzly/bear%20spray.pdf. Note on BLACK BEARS they have become highly predatory in Alaska. Listed were all the big names but one very powerful handgun was not mentioned. Can you show any proof that we are destroying anything? @1,200+ FPS and a 300gr. Park staff monitor the population through satellite GPS collars, remote cameras and . Great Man, and he never told a fib while I grew up At 75 I will never know. As an Army veteran, I had no problem with my shot placement just my faith in loads. Ive reached out for three gentlemen all of whom I call a friend for advice and a few experiences regarding their encounters. But in advanced Industrialized Countries your a dying bread of cat. Inside the house, condo, apartment, or indoors such should I carry either my Ruger Alasken 44 mag, or my Ruger GP 100 in 44 Special with custom loaded 255 gr. My resulting theory is that if you see the bear/cougar, draw your gun and do your best to avoid the encounter. The .454 Casull is my usual choice as it provides a good balance of power with manageability. I shot that bear in the mouth without breaking a tooth on him cause he was popping his jaws whilst standing on his back legs trying to get thru the fence. He saved them both, barely, with his .338 rifle. 540 gr leaving the 7 barrel at 1200 FPS. A few years back I went to Alaska, rented a 44 pickup camper,& spent 6 weeks in the boondocks, with only my wife. In fact, a shot from a .357 caliber revolver or a shotgun at close range is more likely to kill a mountain lion than an accidental discharge . I have a CZ52 that shoots the old PPsH Tokarev LMG round. My advice: If youre standing, attempt to avoid a confrontation; and mentally prepare yourself for the greater likelihood that youll be on your back being chewed on. You could get pretty close to a semi-auto .454 Casull if you had a .440 Cor-Bon Desert Eagle. sounds like you have too many guns and cant decide on which one to take. In a close encounter this bear would have had enough time to kill me with no problem. The authors well-worn, and well-loved Ruger Blackhawk in .45 Colt is a perfect handgun for bear country. Babb said the attack occurred while the boy and his family were taking a break from riding all-terrain vehicles. Been involved in 2 grizz encounters. Its a free country Plinker you are free to engage in Prayer, Ritual and Incantations by the light of the moon. I used them for too many years to be so. Bear is a bear, you underestimate them at your own peril. In my penetration testing I also included a 30 Tokarev as from my experiences in Vietnam I knew they were great penetrators. A California man has been sentenced to 30 days in jail and other penalties for the killing of a protected mountain lion over the summer. Told me to that towards evening they made Camp during Daylight Hours. Derek Wolfe told Tucker Carlson he plans to eat the mountain lion he hunted. I was hunting in Alaska well before most of your parents even drew a breath. Buzz, FL). If we had a true list of every cartridge throughout history that killed a bear we would surely be suprised by dozens of them! Question whats your life worth to you. I carry my Ruger SP101 357 on me always, and when camping, I have my 45-70 close by. However, the realization that you might have to use one to defend against a couple-hundred pounds of teeth and fangs doesnt exactly make one feel like Zorro; in fact, I looked down at it and said to myself:This is gonna hurt. No, they dont. I find it odd that people who trust autoloading pistols for protection against instantaneous violent attack by humans do not trust them for bears? i think a .38 would tickle the bear more than anything. The bear biologist was tracking the animals when I stepped out of the woods and she told me how close we were to the bear. Weve got them here in the Central Mountains of Utah. can a 38 special kill a mountain lionohio state income tax. on this subject is this: self defense/house protection/concealed carry is only half The female mountain lion in a chilling faceoff with a solo trail runner in Utah wasn't trying to kill him. While mountain lion attacks are rare, it is because mountain lions are not common, and interactions between mountain lions and humans are uncommon. Not totally true. People started carrying bear spray in that area. the 45 colt will out perform even the 454 if the right cases are used in bullet weights up to 410gr. I have used the Casull to take a lot of game including several black bears so I understand the terminal ballistics of this cartridge pretty well. This account from the Camp Verde Bugle, also says there were two shots. No thanks. A 300gr bullet at 1000 fps has 666 ft-lbs of energy. @ 1,100+ FPS!! Colt Magnum June 7, 2018 At 19:23. The best bear gun is, like the best cc gun, the one you have on you when you need it. All good options. Photo Courtesy: Cork Graham. Leave bear territory, do a quick mag switch and your back to the right rounds for CCW. Your email address will not be published. Dating back to 1873, the .45 Colt will provide very impressive terminal ballistics when loaded in a strong, modern handgun. Between travel & the country this gun was never more than arms reach away all that time!! If you choose bear spray as your only alternative more power to you. Attacks continued and now a lion is dead. Certainly a .22 is enough to kill anything if you shoot it in the head point blank. Federal, My grandparents have a home on rockytop Tennessee, with a few caves. The rabid coons were like a drunk, or drugged as they did not acknowledge being shotAmmo used.45 corbon 185 gr hp + p. 9 mm Federal hydroshok 124gr. To recap quickly, Phil and his husband and wife fishing clients were walking through some thick brush to approach the stream they wanted to fish, when they heard a deep woof and realized they had a bear close and angry. If I gotta shoot something that wants to eat me ! Until just a few few years ago, the largest bear ever killed was by a young girl in Alaska. Bears, wild critters, thats all very nice and fluffy. The grizzly and brown bears are a completely different story. Id take the 9mm any day if it was my only 2 choices, loaded with 147 flat nose +P+ from Underwood Ammo. The experience led me to think about bear, cougar, and moose encounters that can happen on my property. Though it is illegal under state law to kill a mountain lion to protect a pet, CPW has decided not to press charges. The lion ignored the adults in the group and went right for the children. In general, 10mm, .44 magnum, or better seems like the best choices (including .454 Casull). That said, here are my picks. This is why I prefer my .460 Roland it has compensator for better follow on second shot. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. I dont recall if it ran on Discovery, National Geographic or The History Channel. 7.6225 Red Army Standard 86gr. Im somewhat challenged with smartphone technology. Oaf commented on the case strength, I personally use Starline cases mostly, and have not had a failure yet, however I do only use those cases for 2 heavy loadings, and then relegate them to lesser cowboy loads. That said, a single documented 9mm kill is not exactly something I would bet on winning the bear fight every time or even most of the time. And if he could run too fast, any caliber will work for knee caps!!!! Good responses. This attack from 2008 shows the utility of a handgun for defense against predators in the wild. They were highly experienced survivalists. I would want a 45 cal or at least a 9mm double action semi-auto with a chambered cartridge every time. The hunting part mostly Brown bear hunting. No HPs! Now thats an appropriate comment. You have to be a reloader or know a reloader to get this, but it is well worth it. I always heard all you need is a .25 auto. P-38 was a male mountain lion born in 2012 and first collared in 2015, the statement said. The .45 Colt makes a formidable handgun cartridge, especially in a pistol as strong as the Blackhawk, where the pressures and velocities can be ramped up a bit. Cork Graham (corkgraham.com) , a fellow writer, hunter, and Alaska resident not to mention an actor on the Discovery Channel had a bit of a different perspective. 45 & 9mm do not get past the fat layer to break bones and damage vital organs. Fly fishing in AK, and knocking around the woods I often carry a stainless charter target bulldog in 44 special. Of course the welfare of humans (the public) must always come last. The BFR 45-70 was not mentioned. Laboratory work several days after the attack would have indicated rabies. With speed loaders in the hands of a competent shooter, the revolver can be reloaded almost as quickly as a pistol. Handloads push a 300-grain to just over 1,000 fps, so it just cracks the code. Then you could shoot them from a distance and up close and personal, and I dont care if it is heavy, power is knowing your prepared ! Ive literally seen .38 spl ricochet of the skulls of hogs, later being found somewhere between the hide and muscle upon skinning. When a bear is facing you even if you penetrate the meat and skull, the skull is angled flat so the bullet would probably ricochet rather than penetrate. Penetration tests have shown that load to penetrate almost exactly the same distance as a standard hardcast 44 Magnum load. Does that mean my woods gun a .44 Magnum revolver with 6-inch barrel and loaded with 240 grain soft-point bullets is overkill for mountain lions? Look it up. A mountain lion was mauling her 5-year-old son in front of her. I started reloading and when the bear got to about 12 yards, I dropped my percussion cap in the leaves. James A. Until its needed. And no, I do not bother with bear spray. Hell no! I disagree one cant empty a glock into a bearIf that makes me a fool then I guess Ill continue to be one but I fire all those guns weekly having the benefit of a backyard range. killed a mountain lion years back with a 3 inch 629, 240 grain hollow points, was not impressed. What I really love I the light weight of the Blackhawk, its great in a shoulder rig. Mountain lions have a size advantage, a power advantage, and more weapons in their arsenal to kill a wolf. The result was a dead dog with one of the bears and almost a dead friend with one of the hogs. While hunting is one of my favorite pastimes, fishing and hiking are a wonderful means of spending time with friends and family and living in close proximity to both the Catskill and Adirondack mountains, there is ample opportunity for both of those activities. For more information about Smith & Wesson, click here. bobcats Any bear is a big, tough critter and to stop them you will need to penetrate and break stuff like big bones or skulls. This would include insanely lar. Mountain lion study highlights. With a 5 inch un-ported barrel, 300 grain hard cast solids, cut an X on the point with a fine hack saw about 1/8 of an inch deep. Magnum revolver for not only armed defense against both two and four legged The Southern California man charged with shooting and killing a protected mountain lion this summer has been sentenced to 30 days in jail and was ordered to serve 240 hours of community service in . Spent half my working career in Alaska, hunted, fished, hiked. In most cases, a 22 caliber rifle will not be able to kill a mountain lion. of course be loaded and kept down loaded with .38 Special ammo (modern). A 629 classic 44 Mag. He shot it twice point blank with his 9mm and the hog just shook its head and continued to walk around. That was my initial question as well. vintage Smith and Wesson Model 66 is a classic beautiful handgun with pinned barrel, I can say the 41 is probably my minimum for the big bears. Next Unfortunately it seems that a sow protecting her cubs, as she is hard wired to do, is killed then the cubs are then euthanized, or as I prefer to call it, killed. COME AND GET IT! Shot placement . For College Campuses! I dont think it is funny to not mention bear spray. Mountain lions will usually stay within their own habitats and hunt for their own food sources. If you choose a 9mm in bear country, you dont want hollow points but maybe something like Lehigh Defense Extreme Penetratorwith its solid copper bullet. Too many horses, the federal government says, are crowding the scraps of . If you carry an effective caliber/bullet combination for 400+ pound bears, wild boars, and feral hogs, you are carrying way too much gun for coyotes and small mountain lions. I got a buddy who is a duputy with Harris County (Tx) Sherrifs office. I would also explore all the different kinds ammo available that would be the best for an attack by a bear. They live off the grid and have lots of bear trouble with their livestock. How many miles can a mountain lion travel? fresh kill 1994 watch online. Its lack of weight had me cringing at first, expecting some wrist-wrenching recoil, but I was pleasantly surprised with the manageability of the K6s. 39% were found to . What? This one took exception.) I want to be able to pump 8 to 18 rounds in his head as fast as I can. Ive racoons hunted quite a bit and upon shooting healthy racoons they either crash dead or make as fleet of an escape as the wounds will allow. When I asked him for his insight, he was kind enough to respond in detail. You would have had until between the 8 and the 6 to be unloading a gun into it , and still possibly wind up injured ! Reply. Ive lived and hunted and fished in Alaska since 1993. sure, sure, sure. Take it from someone who has been nose to nose with many big bears by accident if youre going into bear country willingly take as big a double action revolver as you can keep all rounds in the target black. coastal brown bear looks like at a distance of 50-75 feet! 10 mm. The S&W Govnor and the Taurus Judge are not what you would want in bear country. Winchester lists their .410 GA slugs as 1800 feet per second. I . .38 Special is great . Plus spray gives you a non-lethal way of dealing with somebody's "loving" pet. My point is I would have given $1,000 for any back up gun 38 or bigger. Carry the most powerful gun you can actually effectively use. It would beat the pants off any .44mag for sure. rather hungry bears stalking, attacking, and then attempting to eat human beings. 480 ruger penetrated steel railroad plates by hitting so hard, the steel cracked and shattered. May 12, 2018. Its time for some lab work, and the Feds arent going to let us stake a few bears out in someones back forty to test loads out on. Outdoors. cougars Magnum Research 45-70 isnt bad either ! Its the sick, injured, old one that will risk human contact. Are they prudent, not for me. No, probably not, but I would feel much better with this gun its easily concealable, doesnt weigh a whole lot, nor take up a lot of room than with no gun at all. Mr. Shoemakers observations about irrational fear, opinions based on nonexperience or shilling, and the need for multiple hits in a hurry are the most astute and real world in this series. So dont go shooting just for fun especially on Kodiak. He said 45 colt loaded with a 300 grain plus hard cast bullet. Although the species is protected, landowners can request a special permit to catch or kill a mountain lion if it has killed livestock and caused damage. It is likely this mountain lion killed the lambs as they are readily available. Humans travel about 21MPH tops.. Bears.. 35mph.. If it was acting as weird as they say, they were idiots for not assuming that it was rabid. I believe that model Ruger is single action, right? ; Dog breeds that are large, powerful, and possess protective instincts, like the German Shepard, are excellent dogs to have . For me, Id say whatever you have at the time is better than nothing. They are most active between dusk and dawn, and generally avoid contact with humans. having confidence in your weapon. The 30-50 yd accuracy is simple.AMAZING SHOT PLACEMENT WITH POWER. A rabid animal is something you do not even want to touch. He has 158 grain, cast SWC and SJSP flat point, +P ammuntion that are showing 890 FPS muzzle velocity on the boxes. The free enterprise system in Africa works for big game, and for the villagers. Im sure that by now youve all heard about famous Alaskan bear guide Phil Shoemaker (grizzlyskinsofalaska.com) , who thwarted a grizzly attack with a Smith & Wesson 9mm automatic, loaded with Buffalo Bore hard cast ammunition. When they were hunted with dogs in the 1950s and 60s, many were shot with .22 rimfire cartridges from both rifles and pistols. I probably keep the fine folks at Magpul in business with my 50, 40 and 30 mag purchases. I would take a 357 Magnum with hard cast bullets over a standard 45 Colt round. I have a Springsfield 460 Rowland and 400 CarBon for bears and back cup with 357 Mag in a Tarus 7 shoot to stop any bear. bird watching, hiking, backpacking, and enjoying nature. I saw a beautiful Blond one in Glacier Natl Park a couple of years ago. But, I still have the Marlin. Feature Articles, If he does not already carry a firearm then he should. After all bears are quite well armed are they not? They have great hunting senses that help them spot prey along with sharp claws and powerful bites. Bear spray works on mountain lions, and the concept behind its usage remains the same for many large carnivores. Our neighbor asked if I would come over and put it down. A Smith & Wesson Model 29, in .44 Remington Magnum completely in the vein of Dirty Harry still makes an excellent choice for the bear woods. Dogs' and bobcats' toes are shaped like an oval. that will allow the bullets to be seated and crimped .100 further out than factory specs. We live in a world that has an exploding human population and dangerous animals are always the losers. This article leaves folks thinking their 45 or 9mm or single action is excellent bear medicine the fact is they are just poor at best. Also, for killing venomous snakes. My wife carries an old Model 60. The spent shell casings can end up lost in the grass, sagebrush, bushes, woods, killed a mountain lion years back with a 3 inch 629, 240 grain hollow points, was not impressed. That being said I would never recommend a .22 for bear protection or hunting. Between 3- and 3.5-inch-wide tracks. When I head afield, I nearly always carry one form of sidearm or another, and while the truly dangerous encounters are definitely a rarity, I feel better knowing I can protect my loved ones and coworkers should the event unfold. I do reload them hot. But, he says, for now, money is tight and he likes his old service size S . I agree the 329 PD is ideal with Lower Recoil .44 Magnum Ammo 255 gr. Colorado Parks and Wildlife said the man, identified on Thursday as 31-year-old Travis Kauffman, is "recovering well" after the self-defense attack on Feb. 4. Ruger alaskan, or Taurus Raging Bull in 5 or 6.5 ported, .480 ruger with 400g hardcast pushing 1100fps or more. So, perhaps .45 colt is NOT the best choice for a bear. What to do? Something I doubt the 500 or 460 blunderbuss allows. Of the pistols that you listed carry the one you shoot best. One would shoot the bear with a 22 rimfire: often a single shot, while his partner would harpoon the bruin to prevent it sinking. The 4-3-1 rule is a good rule of thumb, however, I agree with the comments about a 10mm. Hopefully, this link will work. Did they field dress and later skin it ? The most restrictive, California State Proposition 117, passed in 1990, prohibits the killing of any mountain lion except in the case of an animal that poses a direct threat to people, pets, or . Thanks! I think that the 480 Ruger is a real sparkling over looked gem. Your .357 magnum should be fine and easier to get off a second shot on target. Long story short, Phil was forced to put the grizzly down. double action using 250gr. You need that big chunk of lead to penetrate deep and crush stuff as it goes. Required fields are marked *. Even for dispatching After I put it down with my .357 magnum, we found both 9mm rounds stuck in the skull. 6+1 capacity, and will group within 3 inches at 25 yds. Lion ignored the adults in the art of defensive purse swinging or kill depredating lions just faith... 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