R135, the timing of the name change seems to perfectly coincide with her fleeing from North Carolina and the Shan'annigens she had been involved in there. According to a Facebook post . But the whole "act of passion" angle doesn . LEONARD does not believe that the divorce decree addressed the life insurance policies. I thought this thread was entitled 'Let's talk about Shannan Watts' as an excuse to get back to talking about Chris? Shan'ann Watts tells her husband: "I don't want a video of you" while recording her children Chris Watts Case: What would Sherlock Holmes Do? John Forbes officiating. LEONARD agreed to share my contact information with his wife for her to call, if she knew anything about SHANANN, possibly through Thrive. A Funeral Mass will be held 1PM on Saturday, September 1st 2018 at Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church in Pinehurst with Rev. Grahm Coder says repeatedly, Help us bring them out of the cold." I cant figure out how they got so deeply in debt AGAIN after the first bankruptcy. And wondering how she could purchase the house on a retail managers salary. The. She wanted the large house. The description of what he did to those little girls. We were so blessed to have such a joyful and wonderful daughter whose beauty was that of a doll. There was never an investigation in the case, therefore its impossible to know who killed Shanann or the little girls. does Chris slowly pay it back by making license plates? They were large policies, $250k or $500k. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.forbisanddick.com/obituaries/Arie-King/#!/Obituary. Shanann Watts Brother Always Worried About Her and the Girls But Couldnt Protect Them, Days Before Murder, Chris Watts' Wife Shanann Was Worried: 'What If He Really Doesn't Love Me Anymore? Plus, there was a newspaper article written about the tire place she worked in in NC, and in the article her name was spelled "Shanann," and a lawsuit filed against her with her named spelled "Shanann.". Police are expected to release further details on Monday, when formal charges are announced. Chris should be let out of prison and given the chance to be hot again. That really upsets me. Shed go to his friends houses and make fun of them after, for being too small or not having proper china or their decor for being quaint (thats rich). I wondered why, on the initial Officer Coonrod bodycam videos, there was no furniture in the dining room. Why are some posters feel the need to say that the toddlers are "ugly". I think if Shannan had lived she would have continued with her hypochondria, her over-spending, her delusional thinking, and would have made her children neurotic messes. Jesus. It is how you build one. How she loved and cherished her. The Watts family murders occurred in Frederick, Colorado, United States, during the early morning hours of August 13, 2018. How does he go from doing their hair every morning and making sure they had baths & snacks everyday (and reading them bedtime stories, etc.) This is sweet as well. And even though I cant stand her, I kind of like how demanding and grifty she was. But nonetheless I still feel Chris killed the children. No, R108. Was she banging him, too? I asked about SHANANNs skills in conflict resolution. I know an ex wife who was getting very greedy and sued for more and lost because her ex could show he had no income by getting his employer to pay him in cash and lived on credit cards for a while. Shannan did indeed feed Bella and CeCe Thrive K. Heres an inspiring video with comments to tell you how wonderful it was. Once she was done, she cut herself off from him. And everything is LUPUS. Rinse and repeat in Colorado except the down payment probably came out of Chris's and/or her parents (who also filed bk) bank accounts. He was sentenced to five life sentences without the possibility of parole, three to be served consecutively. Interview with Leonard King, Shan'ann Watts' Ex-Husband [47th Tranche] | TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE W Wanda Sweitzer 41 followers More information Interview with Leonard King, Shan'ann Watts' Ex-Husband [47th Tranche] | TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE Book Series Covers Science Today Moving In Together Baby Hospital Rocket Science 100 Book Its crazy & I just dont understand it. Image from Facebook. See home details for 19398 Hathaway Ln and find similar homes for sale now in Warrensville Heights, OH on Trulia. And Jim Id love to know more. Nickole hadn't wanted to bother Shanann's husband, Chris Watts, as he worked out in the oil fields. The documentary pieced together the events . Your latest Netflix obsession has arrived. She did not "purchase" any house. What do you mean? Im not doubting exactly, I just need it explained. But then it was built up with more McMansions pretty quickly, though. It doesnt appear that there was any history of beating or physical or sexual abuse with them & Chris (that we know of), so what the fuck happened? Reinventing the spelling of a name is for high school kids. ^ Thanks for clarifying. Is Colorado NOT a no-fault divorce state? I also want to see her car model pictures too. Most states are nowadays. How wrong we all were. On August 13, 2018, Chris strangled Shanann in their Colorado home. He hasnt touched me all week, kissed me, talked to me except for when Im trying to figure out what is wrong, Shanann explained in another text. R122 Well, what is your standard? The 500K was in 2015as of 2018, they were about 100K in debt (student loans, etc.) shanann watts first marriage shanann watts first marriage (No Ratings Yet) . Odd that when her marriage to King ran into trouble her behavior exactly mirrored that of Chris in the months before the murders: Not waning to engage in conversation, shutting down, withdrawing, physically distancing herself within the home, etc. She was working to provide for family while her husband plotted murder. She named him Nico Lee. And to restate the obvious again - if you are married, make sure you have your own individual accounts. He should have snapped and just taken off. Why are you so concerned about what these children look like? He pleaded guilty that November to all three slayings. Janny Free please dont call them little monsters they died but the hand of their father, and Bella was such a sweet little girl, and CeCe was younger she was still in toddler stageShe was gonna grow out of itNo matter what happened between these adults they didnt deserve to die, and neither did Shanann RIP Shanann and your 3 Angels Bella Celeste Nico , Janny didnt call them little monsters she was repeating what Shanann called them in one of her videos . He said they hadn't spoken since they split and he didn't even know her current name. R169: I dont think either one were straight when it comes to spending. Dirty South is a custom car shop. R141 Your boy was fucked with or without the nosy friend. https://shakedowntitle.com/2018/09/30/dirty-south-customs-shananns-dirty-little-secret/. LEONARD knew nothing of SHANANNs current husband, other than what he saw on the news. I remember there was some anti-Lularore/MLM site that had stories of men divorcing their wives due to MLM debt. R230, Guuurrrl, this is the only place we're allowed to talk about her Munchausen's and Munchausen's by Proxy. He had heard about the case in which SHANANN and her children were missing. The ex states Shanann states she left because domestic violence. in Carthage, NC. Replying to myself - FattieWattie should be pronounced Fatty Watty as in Wat that rhymes with Fat..Ive fucked up on the first post already :/. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. Authorities still do not know exactly what led Chris who was having an affair with a co-worker to kill his whole family that fateful morning, after which he went on TV news to plead for her safe return.". The parents are very proud of their low cost, cruelty free diets, but the kids dont, well, thrive on it. I followed the Hart murders, too. He did not receive a warm welcome when he reunited with them in NC. Please enable JavaScript in your browser's settings to use this part of Geni. It was Bumfuck, NC, but still worth $400k. Mother of Bella Marie Watts; Celeste Cathryn Watts and Nico Lee Watts Where does the need to reinforce someones mistake come from? Chris did a lot to help around the house yes he was the father of the family. She left home again to attend a quick work trip on Aug. 10, returning home just before 2 a.m. on Aug. 13. I will be curious to know if he was on the spectrum in some way. No college degree, working as a manager of a tire/rim shop, builds a gigantic house. She's the murdered frau of Chris Watts, who also killed their two tots. ^ That's a pic of Shan'ann. So Shan'ann's Thrive income was and remains, a mystery. RELATED:. Then, he crams them all down an oil tank. But. I had no idea it was that much! I thought it was very telling of Scam'Ann's personality: SHE, and she alone, will lord over the money; yet, she was such a financial liability that her name wasn't even on the house (and I'm assuming the mortgage.). "The hetero ladies who get their panties wet over a guy who murdered his wife and kids are creepy.". I think if you go back and look at the Thrive video output it might correlate with when Chris began cheating posting a profile on Tinder and hooking up with Amanda McMahon either Feb. or March 2018. 05:02 GMT 17 Aug 2018 Keith Griffith For Dailymail.com Shanann and Christopher "The Murderer" Watts. Chris and Shanann met in 2010 in their home state of North Carolina and got married on Nov. 3, 2012. Even her own mother admitted she shopped around until she got the correct diagnosis. I feel like I need to add something special to my name too. I wonder if she might have used that Thrive crap on the kids. She has a few anecdotes that ring true to me, but I wouldnt vouch for her absolute truthfulness. Shanann Watts and her two young daughters, Celeste and Bella -- who were allegedly killed by Watts' husband the girls' father -- were mourned at their funeral Saturday, along with Watts' unborn son, Nico. May be she aspired to live a little beyond their means but she didnt kill anyone not does that make her evil. The man had the foresight of a gnat and zero sympathy, let alone empathy, for others. Didnt Shanann cheat on Leonard with the middle eastern guy at Dirty South he mentions? Shanann met Chris Lee Watts in 2010. Didnt last long, because how can you grift from a call center? She didnt realize how controlling she became, according to his accusations. There were no albuterol pumps or nebulizers then. She was a grifter with her buddy Hashem. They BOTH needed surgeries at the same time; they BOTH had life-threatening allergies; they BOTH were rushed to the hospital on the same night for the same thing; they BOTH needed the same breathing treatments. She was our pride and joy, a true gift from God. Their last hours were terrifying & uncomfortable & their deaths were neither quick or painless. Everyone was a useful idiot, to her. Shanann's ex husband Leonard King say's "it was virtually impossible to engage with her" Murder Mysteries 2.8K subscribers Subscribe 7.9K views 4 years ago Shanann's ex husband found. Chris isnt going anywhere, so he should turn her in. Its clear the NC house layout was inspiration to the CO home that was customized. Shanann Watts Husband / Shanann Watts Children. Just curious. Also thought they were killed before Shanann got home and so never knew mommy was dead. On Thursday, authorities found three bodies: Shanann was buried in a shallow grave about 40 miles east of their home at a work site belonging to her husband's former employer (which fired him. Watts likely justified to himself (wrongly, of course) their murders based on this. LEONARD knew nothing of SHANANNs current husband, other than what he saw on the news. He learned of this case from social media and news. He buried them at his place of work and left a bedsheet in the field. Colorado takes moving, and parental alienation, very seriously. Was Saturday 25 Six Nations RUGBY UNION BBCI, ITV1 & S4C The third week of the contest sees title favourites Ireland travel to Rome to face Italy (ITV1, k-o 2.15pm), before Wales welcome England to Cardiff's Principality Stadium (BBC1 & S4C, k-o 4.45pm). R150 But she was. Unless theres a strong family history and a red flag symptom, no one that age has a fucking colonoscopy. COPS: It was determined that SHANANN WATTS was previously married to LEONARD KING, an attorney in NC. So depressing. She said on Facebook that she would return from Scottsdale on Sunday, August 12. Chris was a real bore, apparently. My assumption is that LK would like to stay as unconnected to this murder as he can. Chris kept going on and on about how attracted he was to her, even though the detectives had moved on and started questioning him about Shannan. Chris Owns his dysfunctional behavior. Ill correct this post if I have to - its a three -way conversation with Shanann, Cassie, and Nickole so its confusing. She would have received spousal support but there is a time limit on that. Anyway, its amazing that theres another chapter to this story; I wonder what the CO investigators could have possibly flown out to Wisconsin to hear, or what Chris could possibly think is big enough to have them come out there for. Im linking the other active DL thread (focused on Chris Watts) below. R220, did you see that house? But you can see a pattern here, with Shanann Pouring herself into work and not being interested in any of the things he was up to. What a tragedy. He refused to hug me after he said he will try to work it out! teacher harriet voice shawne jackson; least stressful physician assistant specialties; grandma's marathon elevation gain; describe key elements of partnership working with external organisations; You live in Colorado and you dont go on hikes? Yes, R231, good point! I thanked LEONARD for his time. Not that he should have killed them, but she was a cunt to him and then when she realized he wasnt going to take it anymore, she backpedaled furiously. Im not saying she killed anyone, but I think she goaded him. R150 The overspending was documented on her social media and records about the financial problems are out there as well. The more I look into that marriage, the worse I feel. strangled daughters, megyn kelly, shan ann watts post, https://reachableshop.com/https://www.instagram.com/reachableshop/Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - Speaking about their relationshiphttps://youtu.be/2MgUoKut3Us Maybe she wasnt very good at Munchhausening. I truly hope a movie is made of her in an honest light. Shanann was born January 10, 1984 in New Jersey to Frank Rzucek and Sandra Onorati Rzucek. And he knew that in her vindictiveness she would use the children as pawns and weapons. I also love when people say she got a huge settlement from her first husband in their divorce. Its my OPINION that people who mess around with their name are waving a red flag. She was 25. Chris pleaded guilty to the crimes that . I'm laughing at Scam'Ann and Sham'Ann. It is known that she did not die until days later. And it goes beyond coldness eventheres almost like a sadistic quality to the whole thing. It wouldn't seem with the way she spent money that they would have a large down payment. He saw no way out of the disastrous mess ( bossy shrew wife with hypochondria, destroying them financially and alienating the children from him while destroying their characters). What a shame that you cant gawk at a picture of murdered children that r116 thinks they look cuter in. The girls in the tanks, neatly hidden from view. That's twice a year every year for 10 years. Meanwhile, she was torturing and starving her children. If Shanann was a horrible person to some it doesnt mean she killed her children when so much premeditation seems to be at hand. Theres a story there. I bet Shanann whacked out a lot. Go back to your thoughts and prayers and handwringing over how things like this can happen, while never trying to actually make sense of it beyond coming to the conclusion of CRAZY. Just saying, R244 Like that YouTube family whose kid died of a random heart or brain condition and they livestreamed his funeral "for the fans". Thanks for mentioning that, whoever you are. All his plans were thrown off track. At least the Watts kids had a good life while they had one. A concerned friend contacted law enforcement after learning of the murders of Shanann Watts and her two young daughter, relaying an unsettling anecdote Shanann had shared with her just weeks before she was killed. I can't imagine after bankruptcy etc. ^^ he would excuse her cunty behavior by saying she was having a bad day but it happened all the time. Cans Natz. She was a malignant narcissist who wrecked havoc when she was questioned. And nursing school, befriending nurses and working in a childrens hospital? Clothes, protein bars, vitamin supplements, make-up. He later admitted to killing their daughters, four-year-old Bella and three-year-old Celeste, by smothering them with a blanket over their heads. I just dont get that at all. That said, my pity and heartbreak goes out to those kids and Nico. But family members remain baffled by the murders, and police remain tight-lipped about how the woman and girls were killed, and what the suspected motive was. Shes the most interesting one, isnt she? Shanann and her two daughters, Bella and Celeste, were reported missing on August 13, 2018 in Frederick, Colorado. LEONARD denied that he currently had any policies on her life. TONS of clothes. At home they would be in different rooms and she was always too busy for what LEONARD had going on. An accomplice would have driven her car out to the site, they would have detonated the explosion and voila. He had heard about the case in which SHANANN and her children were missing. Here is a entertaining video of hausfraus selling Luluroe via MLM. She alienated Chris from his friends. Chris Watts is not a sociopath. Every real life character in this story is interesting, especially the victim. She would also get child support but its based on income and its possible, only possible, she was making more than he was. Billions of dollars.. Ok, well millions anyway. Its very clinical and he doesnt sound like he has real empathy for what they went through. He has changed. I think Nick Der Leek does an outstanding job because he cleverly reviewed the case in its entirety and was able to provide spot on the mental makeup of both Chris and Shannan beginning with being unequally yoked. Suffering. I hope Chris is released someday, he shouldn't have to spend the rest of his life in prison. I think Celeste was adorable. Nothing out of the box. Too bad there wasn't a trial so we can hear it all, because it was too actual to be ignored. Considering how Shanann gained the confidence of others and used them, I have no doubt she wouldve alienated the girls against Chris. But its true. Its the underlying current of this entire tragedy. Does anyone know when she began calling herself Shan'ann and why? Six days later, she was dead -- strangled at the hands of her own husband. Watts was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN took out life insurance policies when they were married around 2004/2005 through USAA. All parents would want the best education for their children. Ill bet he tried so hard to keep his 401k funded. The family of Shanann Watts paid tribute to the slain Colorado mom, her two daughters and . Her crazy MIL spread stories about Shannaaaannna. Netflix viewers believe a murdered wife sent police a clue from beyond the grave after spotting something "creepy" in the doco about her brutal murder at the hands of her cheating husband. 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